Energy cannot be created or destroyed only converted?
does this quote implies reincarnation? Like our soul is being transferred to other organism and what not, or is it that our body's energy is just used as nutrition for the world? And I don't want to hear this "God" crap. I use soul as our personality not in a way of thinking about God
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- If that's true, then explain the existence of tacos to me.
- not unless you belive that the spirit is acutlaly energy and actually exists in the first place...
- No.Soul doesn't exist, our body's energy is just used as nutrition for the world, but grave worms don't have our personality
- You don't wanna hear this God Crap but you're talking about a "soul".
- An old Brahman priest asked Buddha: "What should we do [to be saved]? The Buddha answered, "....look for another Holy One who will come and help the world and all of you in the future." Then the Brahman priest asked, "What will the characteristics of the Holy One be like?" The Buddha answered him, "The Holy one who will keep the world in the future will be like this: In the palm of his hands and in the flat of his feet will be the design of a disk, in his side will be a stab wound; and his forehead will have many marks like scars. The Holy One will be the golden boat who will carry you over the cycle of rebirths all the way to the highest heaven [Nirvana]. Do not look for salvation in the old way [trying to merit salvation]; there is no salvation in it for sure. Quit the old way, and there will be a new spirit like the light of a lightening bug which will come down from the sky above to live in all of your hearts, and you will be victorious over all of your enemies. Nobody will be able to destroy you. If you die, you will not come back to be born in this world again. You will go to the highest heaven [Nirvana].
- No. A soul isn't a form of energy. There's no scientific evidence for what we think of as "souls" to even exist. Energy is what fuels the chemical processes going on in our bodies, and once we pass away those go back to the earth as our bodies decompose. It's one big cycle, life and death, just like when a pet dies or a plant dies.
- No. No implication of reincarnation. There is no evidence for souls either. Why not start from what you know is true instead of what you want to be true?
- The concept of afterlife was made up by people who fear death. I find it amazing how people cannot visualize the universe being infinite and at the same time cannot imagine their lives being finite. Energy can dissipate to almost nothingness.
- It is a simplified version of the first law of thermodynamics. No, it does not imply reincarnation. It implies a recycling of the energy in othrr forms. There is no mention of metaphysical things like the soul, since we have no evidence of a soul's existence beyond its being a mental concept.
- There is no unaccounted for energy that would make up this "soul" thing you mentioned. We know where every bit of it goes.
- I'm an Atheist and I've used this to counter Monotheistic, soteriological religions (Abrahamics). However, it's still unsubstantiated and we have no reason to believe a soul exists to begin with.
- Wow, I'll hafta tell my buddies down at Maryland Light, that they should close down the dams at Safe Harbor and Conowingo, since they can't make electricity with their dynamos no more. Hooooweeeeee, what ya don't know!
- God is not crap, my friend. But yes, our souls do continue to exist in a higher state...if we have accepted Christ.
- No it doesnt because at death the energy of the brain dissipates as heat. Such things would have to rely on other methods such as these. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_theories_of_consciousness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAQpOHBrZeU
- Right, no "God" crap or I guess no supreme force, or creative being as well. Therefore, I refuse to answer your question because it's impossible to speak on energy without bringing God into it. This is one which would have no name because of.
- Proving the Existence of God to Atheists: Congratulating an Atheist Normally, when I meet an atheist, the first thing I like to do is to congratulate him and say, " My special congratulations to you", because most of the people who believe in God are doing blind belief - he is a Christian, because his father is a Christian; he is a Hindu, because his father is a Hindu; the majority of the people in the world are blindly following the religion of their fathers. An atheist, on the other hand, even though he may belong to a religious family, uses his intellect to deny the existence of God; what ever concept or qualities of God he may have learnt in his religion may not seem to be logical to him. My Muslim brothers may question me, "Zakir, why are you congratulating an atheist?" The reason that I am congratulating an atheist is because he agrees with the first part of the Shahada i.e. the Islamic Creed, ‘La ilaaha’ - meaning ‘there is no God’. So half my job is already done; now the only part left is ‘il lallah’ i.e. ‘BUT ALLAH’ which I shall do Insha Allah. With others (who are not atheists) I have to first remove from their minds the wrong concept of God they may have and then put the correct concept of one true God. Logical Concept of God: My first question to the atheist will be: "What is the definition of God?" For a person to say there is no God, he should know what is the meaning of God. If I hold a book and say that ‘this is a pen’, for the opposite person to say, ‘it is not a pen’, he should know what is the definition of a pen, even if he does not know nor is able to recognise or identify the object I am holding in my hand. For him to say this is not a pen, he should at least know what a pen means. Similarly for an atheist to say ‘there is no God’, he should at least know the concept of God. His concept of God would be derived from the surroundings in which he lives. The god that a large number of people worship has got human qualities - therefore he does not believe in such a god. Similarly a Muslim too does not and should not believe in such false gods. If a non-Muslim believes that Islam is a merciless religion with something to do with terrorism; a religion which does not give rights to women; a religion which contradicts science; in his limited sense that non-Muslim is correct to reject such Islam. The problem is he has a wrong picture of Islam. Even I reject such a false picture of Islam, but at the same time, it becomes my duty as a Muslim to present the correct picture of Islam to that non-Muslim i.e. Islam is a merciful religion, it gives equal rights to the women, it is not incompatible with logic, reason and science; if I present the correct facts about Islam, that non-Muslim may Inshallah accept Islam. Similarly the atheist rejects the false gods and the duty of every Muslim is to present the correct concept of God which he shall Insha Allah not refuse. (You may refer to article, ‘Concept of God in Islam’, for more details – You tube Video by Zakir Naik ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZM_kHfTGhI I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is Allah's servant and His Messenger Thank You
- While the concepts are analogue, there is no established connection between the two. I like that you used "implies" because that way you are not FORCING an assumption unto others.
- When a person dies, organisms of decomposition capture some of the cadaver's energy, in the form of chemical bonds, for their own use. The larger, uncaptured portion escapes as waste heat according to the second law of thermodynamics. There is no personality involved.
- energy is created and destroyed every pico second in the subatomic cell the particles are ducting into and back from the zero point pool re energized and prepared to do the work necessary to keep sub atomic cell in balance without that destruction and construction the universe would not last one billionth of a second see non standard cosmology whittaker russell, Walter tesla
- Nope. It doesn't imply reincarnation in the least. The sum total of the matter and energy of the Universe must apparently be conserved, but nothing in the Laws of Conservation of Mass and Energy state that either matter or energy must remain in their same essential state throughout the existence of the Universe, so there is nothing about the fact our bodies produce energy which requires our consciousness to go on after death. In fact, given the Laws of Physics, I would say a very strong case could be made against ideas like reincarnation because where energy is concerned, every bit of evidence we have ever seen indicates the same thing: in order for energy to do anything complex and directed, it must be constrained and directed by matter. It doesn't maintain complex, coherent patterns without matter doing something to affect it. No material constraints, and energy does exactly one thing. It dissipates. The energy which produces human consciousness is, in any case, chemically derived. The electrical impulses which power our brains are produced (like all neural impulses) by a rapid exchange of sodium and potassium ions. Without that physical mechanism generating the electricity and the various nerve structures guiding its flow to produce a complex, coherent sustained pattern, human consciousness would not exist. When we die, the chemical mechanism responsible for generating consciousness starts to break down on a body-wide level. The energy which was producing our consciousness is necessarily diverted into other chemical reactions which become increasingly disordered over the course of time, until our bodies have so decayed there is no longer any body left which could be genuinely said to chemically be our own instead of part of the environment again. At no point in the process is it required the human consciousness be removed in tact and placed somewhere else, just like the glow of a light bulb doesn't need to be taken out of the light bulb as a glow and put in another bulb. The energy doesn't need to exist in that particular form, moving in those particular patterns. So no, there's nothing about the fact we produce energy that would suggest reincarnation takes place. In fact, given the specific way in which we generate electrical charges within our bodies, the evidence very strongly suggests it isn't possible.
- There is no soul but yes every living thing is " reincarnated" in a sense
- I don;t think it does. Our personality, our consciousness, what we like to call our "soul" is an emergent property of our brains. When the brain dies, it (as with the rest of our body) changes states, breaking down into component chemicals and becoming food for plants and animals. It is not the whole that cannot be created or destroyed, only the component matter/energy.
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